Church Planting Together
Church planting is tough and affects every area of the church planter's life. Join church planters Loren and Carrie Pankratz (with over 11 years experience) as they delve into their struggles, the times they totally nailed it, and the things they wish they would have done differently in their Utah church plant. You can also expect to hear from church planting couples in different phases of the journey. In each episode, you will find helpful, practical tips for planting a church and keeping your marriage strong in the process. If you and your spouse are planting a church, thinking of planting a church, or supporting someone who is, this is the podcast for you.
Episodes
49 episodes
The Value of Disappointment in Church Planting
Episode 49- Church planting is filled with disappointment. It is a massive part of the church planting experience. In this episode, Loren and Carrie discuss some of the disappointments they faced and what God taught them through the experience....
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Episode 49
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36:14
Alongside: A Ministry to Ministry Wives
Episode 48- There are plenty of resources for Church Planters and Pastors. There are not so many for the wife of the planter. In this episode, Carrie and Loren talk to Coletta Smith of Alongside Min...
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Episode 48
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30:05
Evaluating Criticism of Your Church Plant
Episode 47- In church planting, you will find that not everyone likes your ideas or how you do things. And, to be honest, you may not always know. Therefore, it may be essential to have a thick skin because you will face much criticism in churc...
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Episode 47
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28:35
Finding the Right Partner in Crime for Church Planting
Episode 46- Having someone with you on your church planting journey can be the biggest blessing. In this episode, Loren and Carrie talk about their partner in crime, Brent Petersen, and how it changed things for both the church and their ...
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Episode 46
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34:49
Setting Your Church Plant up for Success, The Bus Quotient
Episode 45- In this episode, Loren and Carrie talk about things you should think about to set your church plant up for success years down the road. If you were to get hit by a bus (The Bus Quotient), the church would still move forward with God...
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Episode 45
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36:46
Hendersons of Utah and Life Lessons in Church Planting
Episode 44- David and Victoria Henderson return and share the complex parts of church planting, what God taught them about themselves, and what God revealed to them about Himself. You can find out more about their church at
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Episode 44
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35:38
Church Planting in a Pandemic: David and Victoria Henderson
Episode 43- David and Victoria Henderson moved to Daybreak Utah to plant a church at the beginning of the pandemic. In this episode, David and Victoria share their experience of how God called them to Utah and what they are doing in the buildin...
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Episode 43
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33:06
Strengthfinders Strengths and Weaknesses in Church Planting
Episode 42- We all have different strengths and weaknesses. During Church Planter Assessment, Loren and Carrie took many personality tests. The one they found the most helpful was the Strengthfinders assessment. In this episode, they talk about...
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Episode 42
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35:46
Learning the Culture and Building Relationships in Your City
Episode 41- Sometimes you pick up your life and move to a new area to plant a church. Doing research before you go is important, but it is also imperative that you do some things when you get there. In this episode, Loren and Carrie talk about ...
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Episode 41
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29:17
The Why and Why Not of Church Planting
Episode 40- Sometimes, people will ask, “Why are you starting a new church when there are already so many?” In this episode, Loren and Carrie talk through some objections to church planting. Then, they show why a church plant is one of ...
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Episode 40
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27:18
Putting People into Leadership in Your Church Plant
Episode 39- In the early days of church planting, it is tempting to let just about anyone take stuff over. In this episode, Loren and Carrie talk about what to look for in your leaders. Loren came up with another one of his fantastic acronyms. ...
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Episode 39
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34:19
Evangelism Entropy in Your Church Plant
Episode 38- Why do so many churches lose their evangelism focus and start to grow inward? In this episode, Loren and Carrie break down page 64 of the book Church Planting L...
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Episode 38
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34:56
Emotionally Difficult Things in the Early Days of Your Church Plant
Episode 37- From marriages that are ticking time bombs to difficult people to those who want you to be just like their old pastor, the early stage of church planting can be emotionally draining and bring feelings of inadequacy. In this episode,...
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Episode 37
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35:45
Growth Barriers and Adding Staff for Your Church Plant
Episode 35- What do you do when you realize that you have hit your relational capacity as a church planter? In this episode, Loren and Carrie talk about growth barriers in your church plant and what you should look for in a person that you are ...
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Episode 36
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35:13
D.U.M.B. Goals and S.M.A.R.T Goals in Church Planting
Episode 35- As we begin the new year, resolutions are on everyone's minds. In this episode, Loren and Carrie discuss setting goals for the church plant and your family. Many people have heard of S.M.A.R.T. goals, but Loren will introduce us to ...
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Episode 35
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33:18
034: Marketing Your New Church Plant
Most pastors don't take a "marketing your church" class in seminary. Some people even think of marketing as a bad word when it comes to church, but Loren thinks of it as sewing seeds of awareness in the community. If people don't know you...
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Episode 34
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27:52
033: Hard Stuff and Keeping Your Focus Where it Belongs
Where there are people, there is poop! Wise words spoken by Loren Pankratz! In this episode, Loren and Carrie share some difficult things that they experienced from friends leaving the church, relationships with people that they had invested in...
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Episode 33
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36:42
032: Emergency Preparedness for Church Planters
On any given Sunday, many things can go wrong... Like waking up and puking your guts out. What do you do when you can't preach the sermon you prepared? What do you do if the power is out in the building or your technology has a mind of its own?...
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Episode 32
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35:44
031: Getting Ready for Holidays While Planting a Church
Holidays can be wonderful as well as stressful. In this episode, Loren and Carrie share some of the difficulties they have had when it comes to holidays and they give some ideas of things to think through so that you can avoid the loneliness an...
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Episode 32
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29:59
030: Carrie is Switching Things Up
Carrie shares that she has made a temporary life change; therefore, some things will change. For everything to work for their family, they will be publishing every other Monday instead of every Monday as they have been. Then, in this epis...
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Episode 30
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31:54
029: Five Things we Wish Someone Would Have Told us
Starting out, Loren and Carrie were ready to take on the world... and then reality set in. In this episode, they share five things they wish that someone would have told them before they began their church plant. They figured them out as they w...
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Episode 29
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32:44
028: Establishing Elders in Your Church Plant
Most church planters want their church to be legit, and establishing elders seems like a way to make that happen. In this episode, Loren and Carrie talk about the path to eldership in their church plant. They talk about three phases:1. ...
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Episode 28
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30:27
027: Going to Retreats That You Don't Lead
When you are working hard to fill other people's tanks, yours doesn't get filled. Leading on an empty tank is no good. It can be harmful to both your church plant and to your marriage. In this episode, Loren and Carrie talk about the importance...
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Episode 27
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28:55
026: Staying Neighborly as a Church Planter
Don't Let your church life crowd out your capacity to love your neighbor. In the early days of church planting, it's easy to be intentional about meeting new people. But, as time goes on, things get more and more complicated. In this episode, L...
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Episode 26
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30:11
025: Managing Expectations in Church Planting
Attending a church planting conference is fun, but it can also leave you feeling like you don't measure up. In this episode, Loren and Carrie talk about how you can manage your expectations and still cheer for and celebrate the church down the ...
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Episode 25
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30:30